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"Hank Arnold

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:02 am
Post subject: Need to rebuild SQL server
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I need to rebuild my SQL 2000 server. We must upgrade to SQL2005 due to
a vendor requirement. This server manages the datastore for the
Presentation Server 4 farm.....

The SQL 2000 --> 2005 update also requires upgrading to Windows Server
2003 (from W2K). We can't go to 2008 since the vendor won't support it
until mid 2009.

Because of this, I was planning to completely rebuild the server. It
just occurred to me that this will, obviously, impact the Citrix data
store.... What would be the best process to accomplish this? Is there a
KB (or other) document that describes best how to handle this?
Ordinarily, I would just backup/restore the database, but the SQL 2000
--> 2005 change has me concerned...

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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
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Vera Noest [MVP]

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Need to rebuild SQL server [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hank,
SQL 2005 runs fine on Windows Server 2000.
See:

Hardware and Software Requirements for Installing SQL Server 2005
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143506.aspx

So you could simply perform an in-place upgrade:

Supported Upgrades Paths
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143393.aspx

This might also come in handy:

SQL Server 2005 Upgrade Advisor
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1470E86B-
7E05-4322-A677-95AB44F12D75&displaylang=en

SQL Server 2005 Upgrade Technical Reference Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3D5E96D9-
0074-46C4-BD4F-3EB2ABF4B66&displaylang=en
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TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote on 10 aug 2008 in
alt.os.citrix:

> I need to rebuild my SQL 2000 server. We must upgrade to SQL2005
> due to a vendor requirement. This server manages the datastore
> for the Presentation Server 4 farm.....
>
> The SQL 2000 --> 2005 update also requires upgrading to Windows
> Server 2003 (from W2K). We can't go to 2008 since the vendor
> won't support it until mid 2009.
>
> Because of this, I was planning to completely rebuild the
> server. It just occurred to me that this will, obviously, impact
> the Citrix data store.... What would be the best process to
> accomplish this? Is there a KB (or other) document that
> describes best how to handle this? Ordinarily, I would just
> backup/restore the database, but the SQL 2000 --> 2005 change
> has me concerned...
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"Hank Arnold

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Need to rebuild SQL server [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks, Vera, but 2003 is a requirement, also. The Vendor software
(Misys HomeCare) runs on the same server as SQL 2000, so both must be
upgraded. I am not a big fan of *EVER* upgrading an OS....

When I installed PS 4 I wanted the data store in SQL. Couldn't afford a
new SQL license (2 CPU's), so had to piggy back the existing SQL server....

Rebuilding is the way I want to go. Upgrading SQL2K *and* W2K is too
much to expect to work w/o problems...

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
> Hank,
> SQL 2005 runs fine on Windows Server 2000.
> See:
>
> Hardware and Software Requirements for Installing SQL Server 2005
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143506.aspx
>
> So you could simply perform an in-place upgrade:
>
> Supported Upgrades Paths
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143393.aspx
>
> This might also come in handy:
>
> SQL Server 2005 Upgrade Advisor
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1470E86B-
> 7E05-4322-A677-95AB44F12D75&displaylang=en
>
> SQL Server 2005 Upgrade Technical Reference Guide
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3D5E96D9-
> 0074-46C4-BD4F-3EB2ABF4B66&displaylang=en
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote on 10 aug 2008 in
> alt.os.citrix:
>
>> I need to rebuild my SQL 2000 server. We must upgrade to SQL2005
>> due to a vendor requirement. This server manages the datastore
>> for the Presentation Server 4 farm.....
>>
>> The SQL 2000 --> 2005 update also requires upgrading to Windows
>> Server 2003 (from W2K). We can't go to 2008 since the vendor
>> won't support it until mid 2009.
>>
>> Because of this, I was planning to completely rebuild the
>> server. It just occurred to me that this will, obviously, impact
>> the Citrix data store.... What would be the best process to
>> accomplish this? Is there a KB (or other) document that
>> describes best how to handle this? Ordinarily, I would just
>> backup/restore the database, but the SQL 2000 --> 2005 change
>> has me concerned...
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Vera Noest [MVP]

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Need to rebuild SQL server [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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OK, I see. No, I wouldn't recommend an OS upgrade either.
I've actually done this some time ago. Choose a 3-step approach:

1. inplace upgrade of SQL2000 to SQL2005 on the old W2K server
You can run this for a week to make sure that all is well.

2. Fresh install of Windows 2003 on new hardware + fresh install
of SQL2005 on this server.

3. Move databases from old SQL server to new SQL server. Note that
you also have to move logins, passwords and permissions.
Check this out:

How can I move my database files to another SQL Server?
http://sql.veranoest.net/sql_faq.htm#move_db_files_between_servers

I'm pretty sure that Citrix also has a KB article with Citrix-
specific steps, but that's at work and I'm at home right now. Will
have a look tomorrow, will post my old checklist here if I can find
it.

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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote on 10 aug 2008 in
alt.os.citrix:

> Thanks, Vera, but 2003 is a requirement, also. The Vendor
> software (Misys HomeCare) runs on the same server as SQL 2000,
> so both must be upgraded. I am not a big fan of *EVER* upgrading
> an OS....
>
> When I installed PS 4 I wanted the data store in SQL. Couldn't
> afford a new SQL license (2 CPU's), so had to piggy back the
> existing SQL server....
>
> Rebuilding is the way I want to go. Upgrading SQL2K *and* W2K is
> too much to expect to work w/o problems...
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