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"Hank Arnold

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:52 am
Post subject: Next problem....printers
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I'm almost ready to start migrating users to my new farm (PS 4.5 on
W2K03). The problem I face now is how to start fresh with printing.

First off, we use roaming profiles. Printing is set up on the current
farm (PS 4.0 on W2K Server) where network printers (on a Print
Server)are added to each user's profile. I was never able to get the
UPD/policy thing to work and was under an emergency situation to get the
farm up and running (our previous farm was lost).

My problem is that, if I log a user onto the new farm, their roaming
profile gets loaded and they now have the mapped network printers
showing as installed. I'm concerned that printer drivers have been
installed, also. I've had problems with keeping the Citrix Print Manager
service running. Eventually, it causes all logons to fail until I stop
the service.

I would like to be able to start clean. Migrate the printers from the
print server and set up a printing policy to, in most cases, use the UPD.

Is there a way to programatically remove the printers defined in a
user's profile? I could generate a batch file to delete all possible
printers, but

Does this make sense? Or do I have to delete the roaming profiles and
start over??

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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
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Vera Noest [MVP]

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Next problem....printers [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Apart from the printer problem, I would start with fresh profiles
anyway, since they are used on different versions of the OS (W2K
versus 2003).
If you copy users' Favorites out of their profiles to their home
directory, you'll probably find that nobody will complain Smile
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"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote on 18 nov 2008 in
alt.os.citrix:

> I'm almost ready to start migrating users to my new farm (PS 4.5
> on W2K03). The problem I face now is how to start fresh with
> printing.
>
> First off, we use roaming profiles. Printing is set up on the
> current farm (PS 4.0 on W2K Server) where network printers (on a
> Print Server)are added to each user's profile. I was never able
> to get the UPD/policy thing to work and was under an emergency
> situation to get the farm up and running (our previous farm was
> lost).
>
> My problem is that, if I log a user onto the new farm, their
> roaming profile gets loaded and they now have the mapped network
> printers showing as installed. I'm concerned that printer
> drivers have been installed, also. I've had problems with
> keeping the Citrix Print Manager service running. Eventually, it
> causes all logons to fail until I stop the service.
>
> I would like to be able to start clean. Migrate the printers
> from the print server and set up a printing policy to, in most
> cases, use the UPD.
>
> Is there a way to programatically remove the printers defined in
> a user's profile? I could generate a batch file to delete all
> possible printers, but
>
> Does this make sense? Or do I have to delete the roaming
> profiles and start over??
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"Hank Arnold

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:35 am
Post subject: Re: Next problem....printers [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks, Vera. Kinda what I suspected.... Gonna have to figure out how to
do this.... Most users log onto a shared workstation and access the
published Desktop.

Migrating workstations is easy, users will be harder since I don't know
which workstation they will log on from.... AD only provides room for
one roaming profile.....

Any thought on how to make the migration?

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
> Apart from the printer problem, I would start with fresh profiles
> anyway, since they are used on different versions of the OS (W2K
> versus 2003).
> If you copy users' Favorites out of their profiles to their home
> directory, you'll probably find that nobody will complain Smile
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote on 18 nov 2008 in
> alt.os.citrix:
>
>> I'm almost ready to start migrating users to my new farm (PS 4.5
>> on W2K03). The problem I face now is how to start fresh with
>> printing.
>>
>> First off, we use roaming profiles. Printing is set up on the
>> current farm (PS 4.0 on W2K Server) where network printers (on a
>> Print Server)are added to each user's profile. I was never able
>> to get the UPD/policy thing to work and was under an emergency
>> situation to get the farm up and running (our previous farm was
>> lost).
>>
>> My problem is that, if I log a user onto the new farm, their
>> roaming profile gets loaded and they now have the mapped network
>> printers showing as installed. I'm concerned that printer
>> drivers have been installed, also. I've had problems with
>> keeping the Citrix Print Manager service running. Eventually, it
>> causes all logons to fail until I stop the service.
>>
>> I would like to be able to start clean. Migrate the printers
>> from the print server and set up a printing policy to, in most
>> cases, use the UPD.
>>
>> Is there a way to programatically remove the printers defined in
>> a user's profile? I could generate a batch file to delete all
>> possible printers, but
>>
>> Does this make sense? Or do I have to delete the roaming
>> profiles and start over??
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Seahawk60B

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:26 am
Post subject: Re: Next problem....printers [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Nov 19, 3:35 am, "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasi... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Vera. Kinda what I suspected.... Gonna have to figure out how to
> do this.... Most users log onto a shared workstation and access the
> published Desktop.
>
> Migrating workstations is easy, users will be harder since I don't know
> which workstation they will log on from.... AD only provides room for
> one roaming profile.....
>
> Any thought on how to make the migration?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
> > Apart from the printer problem, I would start with fresh profiles
> > anyway, since they are used on different versions of the OS (W2K
> > versus 2003).
> > If you copy users' Favorites out of their profiles to their home
> > directory, you'll probably find that nobody will complain Smile
> > _________________________________________________________
> > Vera Noest
> > MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> > TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> > ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasi... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote on 18 nov 2008 in
> > alt.os.citrix:
>
> >> I'm almost ready to start migrating users to my new farm (PS 4.5
> >> on W2K03). The problem I face now is how to start fresh with
> >> printing.
>
> >> First off, we use roaming profiles. Printing is set up on the
> >> current farm (PS 4.0 on W2K Server) where network printers (on a
> >> Print Server)are added to each user's profile. I was never able
> >> to get the UPD/policy thing to work and was under an emergency
> >> situation to get the farm up and running (our previous farm was
> >> lost).
>
> >> My problem is that, if I log a user onto the new farm, their
> >> roaming profile gets loaded and they now have the mapped network
> >> printers showing as installed. I'm concerned that printer
> >> drivers have been installed, also. I've had problems with
> >> keeping the Citrix Print Manager service running. Eventually, it
> >> causes all logons to fail until I stop the service.
>
> >> I would like to be able to start clean. Migrate the printers
> >> from the print server and set up a printing policy to, in most
> >> cases, use the UPD.
>
> >> Is there a way to programatically remove the printers defined in
> >> a user's profile? I could generate a batch file to delete all
> >> possible printers, but
>
> >> Does this make sense? Or do I have to delete the roaming
> >> profiles and start over??


If they're running published desktops, there may also be items in
their desktop folder in the profile that you also want to retain, in
addition to favorites. And if you're not redirecting My Documents to
another location then you'd need to consider that as well.

I would create a new share for the roaming profiles, then use
tscmd.exe to script the changing of the profile paths to the new
location. That way you still have access to the old profiles to copy
any pertinent information over to their new profiles should it become
necessary.

Keep in mind that if you're going to import the print server and use
session based printers created via policy, the driver that the printer
uses on the print server has to be on the Citrix server. Session
based printers don't use the printer drive mappings, those only apply
to auto-created client printers. And the UPD will also only be used
for auto-created client printers as well. As long as you're using the
Microsoft inbox print drivers, you shouldn't run into many driver
issues. If you've got HP printers, most of them should be able to
function well with the basic LaserJet IIID, 4, 4000, 5, or Color
LaserJet drivers.

I assume the workstation migration means pushing out the ica file for
the new farm. If the workstation migration and profile change can't
be completed at the same time, I would make the workstation changes
first, then when you're ready to move the profiles make sure they're
aren't any cached copies left behind on the Citrix servers.
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